Oct 22nd, 2008 | Liberals survey

Are liberals essentially anti-American?


Congresswoman Michele Bachmann (Republican, Minnesota) declared half of America is anti-American on Hardball. She drew a straight line between liberal views and anti-American views. She also said Senator Barack Obama, democratic nominee for president, is anti-American.

Today she retracted her statements on Hardball. Here's a video of her "retreat".

Here's the congresswoman official site: maybe you liberals out there want to send her an email, telling her you actually like America. I know I will.





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Poll tags:Liberals, Democrates, Democrats, Republican, Sarah Palin, Bill Ayers, Anti American, Anti-american, Lefties, Michele Bachmann, Chris Matthews, Election, Us Election, Presidnetial Election

 
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Officeshrew
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Alabama, United States

posted Oct 27th, 2008 at 12:14 CDT

did he try to set a bomb off and succeed? no

Philgtaylor
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Australia

posted Oct 24th, 2008 at 18:52 CDT

So you are linking Obama to extremists? Like McCain has been linked to people like G.Gordon Liddy, who burgled the Watergate building in order to try to fix an election? And not just linked, I mean, he has appeared on his radio show and praised him, calls him a friend...

Bmccue7
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Georgia, United States

posted Oct 23rd, 2008 at 14:26 CDT

No, I'm saying that Joe's talk-show radio host is full of crap. And so is Ms. Bachmann.

Officeshrew
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Alabama, United States

posted Oct 23rd, 2008 at 12:26 CDT

whatever phil....<a href="http://imageshack.us"><img src="http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/6120/officerwaverlybrownex4.jpg" border="0" alt="Image Hosted by ImageShack.us"/></a><br/>This is Police Officer Waverly Brown, a fifteen year veteran and the only black man serving in the NYACK Police Department in 1981. In that year, Officer Brown and his partner Seargent Edward O'Grady were murdered by freaks from the Black Liberation Army and the Weathermen, Bill Ayers old Glee Club. The BLA and the Weathermen were friends in terror. They first robbed a Brinks van and murdered the guards. Later they were approached by Officers Brown and O'Grady. The two Policemen were then murdered by members of the BLA and the Weathermen. Ever get the feeling that all those boring, stupid and narcissistic radical fakes of the 60’s and 70’s knew their parents and their own affluence would bail them out in the end? And it has. Just as it did entirely the repulsive Patty Hearst. Thus Bill has much in common with Peppermint Patty. They both were active members of pointless unproductive groups of mostly affluent brats who believed in murdering anyone including successful black people to make the world a er, “better place”. Ah, you mean Marxist Hell hole, don't cha? I know ya do. But not for them though, eh?<a href="http://imageshack.us"><img src="http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/5893/billayersonflagra2.jpg" border="0" alt="Image Hosted by ImageShack.us"/></a><br/><a href="http://g.imageshack.us/img135/billayersonflagra2.jpg/1/"><img src="http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/billayersonflagra2.jpg/1/w250.png" border="0"></a>This is Bill Ayers, the charming Weatherman terrorist. Unlike more than ten Police Officers, Bill was not murdered by middle-class misfits and ghetto bottom feeders. "Guilty as hell, free as a bird. America is a great country", he [Ayers] said." August 2001, Chicago Magazine [article: No Regrets].Here's the identical old Patty Hearst Fan Club, the S.L.A. in action. "November 6: "After several months of weapons training, the S.L.A.[Symbionese Liberation Army] commits its first revolutionary act. They ambush and murder black Oakland school superintendent Marcus Foster and seriously wound his deputy, Robert Blackburn. Foster, an educator of national repute, is mistakenly targeted for his support of an I.D. system for Oakland students. In fact, Foster did not advocate school I.D.s, although it had been mistakenly reported that he did". PBS terror timeline.From the website of the Revolutionary Communist Party. (revcom.us or rwor.org) "Create Public Opinion, Seize Power.We are preparing minds and organizing forces for the time when there is a major crack in the system, whenever it comes and wherever it comes from: an opening that makes it possible to bring the future Revolutionary Army of the Proletariat (R.A.P.) into the field and wage a revolutionary armed struggle that actually has a chance of winning.And we have said that building our party itself is the most important part of organizing forces for revolution. This is true now, and it is true looking forward to the creation of that future R.A.P. and the waging of that armed struggle". "Imperialism. I’m against it, and if Sean Hannity and others were honest, this is the ground they would fight me on. Capitalism played its role historically and is exhausted as a force for progress: built on exploitation, theft, conquest, war, and racism, capitalism and imperialism must be defeated and a world revolution—a revolution against war and racism and materialism, a revolution based on human solidarity and love, cooperation and the common good —must win.We begin by releasing our most hopeful dreams and our most radical imaginations: a better world is both possible and necessary".Source: Bill Ayers' own website: On October 01 2006, Bill Ayers gave an interview with the Voice of the Revolutionary Communist Party of America. No, really. “Our ideology is Marxism Leninism Maoism. Our vanguard is the Revolutionary Communist Party. Our leader is Chairman Avakian”. Colonel Neville: Yes, and straight from the fabulous and satirical pages of the Peoples Cube, mate.“We count you as one of the important progressive educators in our era”. University of Illinois at Chicago.Colonel Neville: I bet they do. Now dig, this source link from Free Republic is a fantastic and vast source of empiricism on the unbelievably smug and conceited phony, liar and Weatherman pervert Bill Ayers. Ayers built his entire rotten life of venal cant and now his morally and intellectually bankrupt academic career on conspiracy to murder, being an accessory to murder and a permanent violent Marxist revolutionary rabble from the 1960’s .Clive: “Derek, you’ve heard about Bill Ayers?”Derek: ”Er, yes I have Clive. He’s that horrible Marxist shitbag. What a fucking Weatherman bastard! What an arsehole! Cunt!”Clive: “Well, I too have been biased ever since the BLA murdered my Aunt Dolly for peace".Colonel Neville: Here's another one that shows how Weathermen leaders like Mark Rudd trained in Cuba in 1968 under a Soviet head creep. Yes, the same people who helped Che the child killer Guevara enjoy himself shooting boys, women and men in the head.In this RWOR interview from 2006, Ayers is in perfect harmony with his interviewer, a straight from Central Casting Marxist lizard freak and clichéd corn spouting phony by the unbelievable name of, no, wait for it...Reggie Dylan!And Reggie the veggie inserts a fantastic self-parody regards the incredibly scholarly David Horowitz. No, really he does. Here’s Reggie.Reggie Dylan: "You are on the David Horowitz list. [Horowitz is a highly placed operative in the service of the Bush regime carrying out an orchestrated attack on dissent and critical thinking in the universities. Bill Ayers is one of the faculty viciously attacked in Horowitz’s book The Professors: The 101 Most Dangerous Academics in America.]”Colonel Neville: “A highly placed operative in the Bush regime!” Only a humourless total fucking Marxist moron and hyperbole addict could come up with that kind of mediocre and reheated 70’s B grade line. And then, not laugh hysterically, but offer it as an example of their zero rational faculties.The eternally tenured conspirator and accomplice to murder, drivels some creepily dated, but simply repackaged Marxist shit in his wonderfully bloated, narcissistic and idiotic saviour of the world way. Hey Bill, make the world a better place via murdering Policemen and black school Principals eh? Obviously, you boring bastard.Barack Obama launched his political career at Bill Ayers house and worked on the same bogus projects and served on the same absurd boards. Yes, "Change!"To those skilled at stripping away layers of bullshit, Ayers reveals in his profoundly weird and self absorbed rhetoric his true and ugly core. Here he’s complaining how the Dean and a few others, while praising Bill da Bomb, amazingly uninvited him to a festival of er, “progressive” education. You know progressive? That’s the new improved Left Liberal Marxism.B.A: [bullshit artist] “...to position progressive education not as radical, but as familiar and good. Now that just steamed up my ears because if you’re saying you’re a progressive educator... That’s one of the things that’s actually annoyed me for about 40 years of being a progressive educator: the separation of the concept of progressive education from the concept of politics and political change. You can’t separate them...and this is a contradiction, incidentally, that goes all the way back to the beginning of progressive education and really the beginning of the conversations about the relationship between school and society.But John Dewey was one of the brilliant, brilliant writers about what democratic education would look like and was himself an independent socialist. But he never resolved a central contradiction in our work, the contradiction between trying to change the school and being embedded in society that has the exact opposite values culturally and politically and socially from the values you’re trying to build in a classroom".Colonel Neville: Yes, Dewey. How problematic, curious and flawed.Ayers on his lost “teaching moment” as a wannabe murderer. The weathermen tried to kill my family. Recent Weathermen sightings from Hotair.Here’s Bill giving an interview published on er, September 11 2001. "Everything was absolutely ideal on the day I bombed the Pentagon", he writes. But then comes a disclaimer: "Even though I didn't actually bomb the Pentagon, we bombed it, in the sense that Weathermen organized it and claimed it". He goes on to provide details about the manufacture of the bomb and how a woman he calls Anna placed the bomb in a restroom”.And here’s a classic from the same Free Republic link on Bill Ayers delightful Weathermen and Black Liberation pals robbing a Brinks truck in 1981 and murdering the guards. "David J. Gilbert, 37, rented the vehicle that same day in the Bronx. Gilbert was a long time member of the Weather Underground and a fugitive from the state of Colorado where he faced charges of assault and possession of explosives. The passenger in the front seat of the U Haul was Kathy Boudin [another former Weather Underground member], on the run from the law since the townhouse explosion in 1970. The couple had dropped off their one-year old child with a babysitter in the morning and was waiting for the return of the red van.""In the back of the red van were Cecilio 'Chui' Ferguson, 35, Samuel Brown AKA Solomon Bouines, 41, Samuel Smith AKA Mtayari Sundiata, 37, and Donald Weems AKA Kuwasi Balagoon, 35. There were others present, but it has never been proven who, or how many. All the men in back of the van were members of a group they called 'The Family.' Most of them had ties to the Black Panthers or the Black Liberation Army, radical political groups that had many violent confrontations with police during the 1970s.""At approximately 3:55 p.m., Paige, a 24-year Brink's veteran and his partner, Joe Trombino, 48, exited the doors to the Mall rolling out the moneybags on a hand truck. They walked over to the Brink's truck and began to load up the bags onto the rear deck. Simultaneously, the red van pulled up and the rear doors swung open. One of the suspects, armed with a shotgun, ran to the front of the truck and immediately fired two blasts directly at the bulletproof windshield. The guard in the front seat ducked just in time and was unhurt.Another suspect, wearing a ski mask, opened up with his M-16 automatic rifle before his feet even hit the pavement, striking Paige in the neck, arm and chest. He was killed instantly.Joe Trombino fired just one shot before he was hit several times in his upper arm and shoulder. The bullets all but severed his arm off his shoulder. "I've got no arm!" he screamed. But Trombino would survive that day, only to perish years later in another terrorist attack at the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001."And here is a beyond belief list of Leftard Liberal Marxist academics and professors, who have put together a petition, and I kid you not, supporting poor Bill who is apparently being unfairly picked on!Here’s a great excerpt or two: “It seems that the character assassination and slander of Bill Ayers and other people who have known Obama is not about to let up. While an important concern is the dishonesty of this campaign and the slanderous McCarthyism they are using to attack Obama, we also feel an obligation to support our friend and colleague Bill Ayers.Many, many educators have reached out, asking what they could do, seeking a way to weigh in against fear and intimidation. Many of us have been talking and we agree that this one gesture, a joint statement signed by hundreds of hard-working educators, would be a great first step......The current characterizations of Professor Ayers “unrepentant terrorist,” “lunatic leftist”, are unrecognizable to those who know or work with him...His participation in political activity 40 years ago is history; what is most relevant now is his continued engagement in progressive causes, and his exemplary contribution, including publishing 16 books, to the field of education. The current attacks appear as part of a pattern of “exposés” and assaults designed to intimidate free thinking and stifle critical dialogue”.Colonel Neville: They’re right. “unrepentant terrorist,” “lunatic leftist”, ARE unrecognizable to those who know or work with Ayers. Because they too, are Leftard Marxist er, “progressives”. Ugh.Here Bill shows that he is seemingly incapable of laying out and editing text in separate paragraphs. Bill’s really is an endlessly dodgy, dull, turgid and virtually unreadable non-writer. No, really. Naturally, that is entirely why he’s a Marxist academic. There’s only 14 comments last time I looked and there’s some good ones.And yep, there’s also great stuff on Mike Klonsky. Klonsky! He’s a great pal of Bill’s too, and a literal fellow traveller. In fact he travelled to China to get endorsement for the party he founded. Guess? Hey, the Marxist Leninist Communist Party. And he got the endorsement. And now he lives comfortably in the US. A free, Capitalist Democracy. Klonsky and his part in the CAC Annenberg Marxist challenge. Be like Che or Mao!And surprise, “...Klonsky has been a professor of education at the University of Illinois, Chicago”.There’s great stuff on the same kind of freak in Louis Farrakhan. Here’s a taste of Shiny Sam:Louis Farrakhan, at the Millions More Movement rally in DC, Oct 15, 2005: "...what Mao Tse Tung did was, he went to the cultural community, and they [Farrakhan spreads his arms beneficently] accepted his idea."..."Mao Tse Tung ... had a billion people whose lives he had to transform."..."the idea of Mao Tse Tung became the idea of a billion people, and China became a world power on the base of the culture and the arts community. If we had a ministry of art and culture in every city we'd create this movement [in the U.S.]."Louis Farrakhan, Santiago de Cuba, February, 1998: "There is not a member of the black masses in the United States who is not proud of the example set by Cuba and its revolution, with Commandante Fidel at its head"And there’s great stuff on his very, very close friend Reverend Wright, a freakishly cunning man who lives in a massive house in an exclusive and very upmarket mostly white housing estate. The low IQ Wright has always been a crazy, venal and morally bankrupt pro-violence Marxist and fraud. Wright is intellectually and emotionally violent. Just like Farrakhan and just Ayers who added over a long period of time, his own personal acts of grand crime. See how they all fit together? And Wright married the Obama’s, christened Barack’s daughters and was and is a close family friend. The Chicago Annenberg Challenge (CAC) (also referred to as the Annenberg Challenge to Chicago) was a public-private partnership founded in 1995 that existed from intended to improve school performance by what it called "on the ground" investments in the form of professional development and technical assistance. Sponsored by the Annenberg Foundation, the CAC received a charter grant of $49.2 million in 1995.[1] The CAC's operations were closed in 2001, and subsumed into those of the Annenberg Institute for Social Reform.The Workshop had been established in the early 1990s by William Ayers who hired Mike Klonsky, a Chicago cab driver who had earned a Ph.D. in education from the University of South Florida, and former activist with Ayers in Students for a Democratic Society, or SDS. Klonsky had achieved limited notoriety in 1977 when he travelled to Beijing to seek the endorsement of Communist China for a political party he had helped establish in the United States, the Communist Party (Marxist-Leninist) [not to be confused with Communist Party USA (CPUSA)-ETL]."Michael Klonsky (born 1943) is an American educator and political activist, a leader of the New Communist Movement.Klonsky's father, Robert Klonsky, had been arrested as a communist in the 1950s and convicted of violating the Smith Act.[1] In the late 1960s Michael Klonsky was the national secretary of the Students for a Democratic Society,[2] which he joined as a student at San Fernando Valley State College (now California State University, Northridge).[3] He was one of five S.D.S. members arrested on May 12, 1969, when prank phone calls sent police and firefighters to the S.D.S. offices in Chicago.[2] In the 1970s he headed the Communist Party (Marxist-Leninist) [not to be confused with Communist Party USA (CPUSA)-ETL)],[4] in which role he was one of the first westerners allowed to visit the People's Republic of China.[4][5]More recently Klonsky has been a professor of education at the University of Illinois, Chicago;[6] his academic work focused on small school size as a solution to the problems of inner city schools. He is now the director of the Small Schools Workshop, a school outreach program associated with UIC.[7][8]..."Communist Party (Marxist-Leninist): Founded in May 1971 in Texas from the fusion of several Maoist splinters from SDS — the Los Angeles Marxist-Leninist Collective, Georgia Communist League, and several other ethnic-based groups. Originally named the October League in 1971, the newly created group soon gained new activists and formed several front organizations (Communist Youth Organization, National Fight Back Organization, etc).In 1977, the October League was reorganized as the Communist Party (Marxist-Leninist) and former SDS activist Michael Klonsky became party chairman. Also in 1977, Klonsky traveled to China and the CPML was recognized by the Chinese Communist Party as its official sister party in America.This was quite shocking to many, given the fact that the CPML was smaller than other Maoist organizations (including the Revolutionary Union). Combining their Maoism with workerist moralism, the CPML denounced "decadent 'counter-cultural' lifestyles," including homosexuality, free love, and drug use. Similarly, they also criticized feminism as a "petty-bourgeois ideology"; however, approximately half of the party's leadership was female.From the New York Times, April 28, 2008 Reverend Wright at the National Press Club."In the late 1960s, when Dr. James Cone's powerful books burst onto the scene, the term 'black liberation theology' began to be used. I do not in any way disagree with Dr. Cone, nor do I in any way diminish the inimitable and incomparable contributions that he has made and that he continues to make to the field of theology. Jim, incidentally, is a personal friend of mine."From Jeff Head's website.One notable quote from [James] Cone describing his Black Liberation Theology is as follows:"Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community ... Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love.""Divine Racism: The Unacknowledged Threshold Issue for Black Theology", in African-American Religious Thought: An Anthology, by William R Jones, ed Cornel West and Eddie Glaube (Westminster John Knox Press).From the Maoist Internationist Movement:[1960s] Black Panther Party [BPP] Archives From the article: REVOLUTIONARY HEROES. Excerpt: "On May 1st, May Day [1969], the day of the gigantic Free Huey rally, two of Alioto's top executioners vamped on the brothers from the Brown Community who were attending to their own affairs. These brothers, who are endowed with the revolutionary spirit of the Black Panther Party defended themselves from the racist pig gestapo.Pig Joseph Brodnik received his just reward with a big hole in the chest. Pig Paul McGoran got his in the mouth which was not quite enough to off him. The revolutionary brothers escaped the huge swarm of pigs with dogs, mace, tanks and helicopters, proving once again that "the spirit of the people is greater than the man's technology."To these brothers the revolutionary people of racist America want to say, by your revolutionary deed you are heroes, and that you are always welcome to our camp".Colonel Neville: Now that's some overboiled corn with absolutely nothing of any worth to offer the sane. Just like everything Bill Ayers has ever drooled.

Philgtaylor
(Reply)
Australia

posted Oct 23rd, 2008 at 07:08 CDT

in what way?

Johnson
(Reply)
Connecticut, United States

posted Oct 23rd, 2008 at 06:37 CDT

No. I would not necessarily say that liberals themselves and by definition are anti-American. But on occassions Barack Obama strikes me as such.

Djkindagardin
(Reply)
Rhode Island, United States

posted Oct 23rd, 2008 at 06:32 CDT

I see, so you're saying that Joe the Republican does not see how good he has it thanks to the crazy liberals who fight for all of the priviledges which he takes for granted? If he was more aware and grateful for these he might too become a liberal. haha. I don't really buy it.

Macbrock
(Reply)
Florida, United States

posted Oct 23rd, 2008 at 01:06 CDT

She's a typical Neocon inserting her foot into her mouth again...

Philgtaylor
(Reply)
Australia

posted Oct 22nd, 2008 at 20:59 CDT

if by anti American, you mean against the kind of establishment who persecuted the Vietnam war and fought against the progressive policies that bmccue has been talking about, then yes.

Philgtaylor
(Reply)
Australia

posted Oct 22nd, 2008 at 20:58 CDT

Isnt Joe a plumber?

(Reply)
posted Oct 22nd, 2008 at 12:27 CDT

Yep.

Bmccue7
(Reply)
Georgia, United States

posted Oct 22nd, 2008 at 12:11 CDT

Ha! I'm reminded of this satirical piece called "A Day In The Life of Joe Republican." Here's an abbreviated version:-Joe gets up at 6 a.m. and fills his coffeepot with water to prepare his morning coffee. The water is clean and good because some tree-hugging liberal fought for minimum water-quality standards. With his first swallow of water, he takes his daily medication. His medications are safe to take because some stupid commie liberal fought to ensure their safety and that they work as advertised.-He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and eggs. Joe's bacon is safe to eat because some girly-man liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry.-In the morning shower, Joe reaches for his shampoo. His bottle is properly labeled with each ingredient and its amount in the total contents because some crybaby liberal fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and how much it contained.-Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some environmentalist wacko liberal fought for the laws to stop industries from polluting our air.-Joe begins his work day. He has a good job with excellent pay, medical benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some lazy liberal union members fought and died for these working standards. -If Joe is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed, he'll get a worker compensation or unemployment check because some stupid liberal didn't think he should lose his home because of his temporary misfortune.-Joe is home from work. He plans to visit his father this evening at his farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive. His car is among the safest in the world because some America-hating liberal fought for car safety standards to go along with the tax-payer funded roads.-He arrives at his boyhood home. His was the third generation to live in the house financed by Farmers' Home Administration because bankers didn't want to make rural loans.-The house didn't have electricity until some big-government liberal stuck his nose where it didn't belong and demanded rural electrification.-Joe gets back in his car for the ride home, and turns on a radio talk show. The radio host keeps saying that liberals are bad and conservatives are good. He doesn't mention that the beloved Republicans have fought against every protection and benefit Joe enjoys throughout his day. Joe agrees: "We don't need those big-government liberals ruining our lives! After all, I'm a self-made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have."

Officeshrew
(Reply)
Alabama, United States

posted Oct 22nd, 2008 at 11:11 CDT

i wouldn't say ALL but they do exist...those that support socialistic policies are basically anti-american....william ayers, an obama supporter who helped start obama's political career, is anti-american...

 
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