Thank you Kookie, I respect your opinion and in many ways I agree with you. I'm not an American but I think that both our countries could benefit from offering more support (financially and socially) to families who want one of the parents to be a full time carer. . I had realised that the abuse issue was probably something that had been brought up with you in the past and was trying to explain that that was not a point I would make. I had not thought you were playing the victim as you put it and hope you did not think so.
Money, or should I say LACK OF! A one income home in average America is not as common as it once was. I had no choice but to work. You would have to study the whole history of Women's Lib, and its effects on American society, to understand my statement I guess. I get attacked quite often for wanting the traditional role of a woman - by women - like I'm an idiot to want 'just' that. I need 'enlightenment'. Work at home is valuable, but it is devalued all the time, and called 'old fashioned'. I should want a career they say. But I say, there is no better 'career' than to raise children and care for the household. And I firmly believe a lot of the social issues of our day are caused by women NOT being in the home. --- The abuse thing is one of the lines I hear from libers all the time, us poor abused women needed to stand up for our rights... To a degree that is true, but not to the degree that it is taken. I do not play the 'victim'. ---I am old fashioned, and not sorry for it. But you are right, if women want this coveted 'equality', then they should die in war, just like the men. I'm for 'equal in value, different roles'. That means it's the man's role to fight the wars. My statement was not an attack on you, Charlie, sorry if you took it that way. I was just trying to explain why I agree with McCain.
I have nothing but respect for a parent who stays at home to look after their kids actually, be that a man or a woman. My Mum did it, parents are still doing it. What stopped you? It certainly wasn't "the Lib." And abuse wasn't even on my mind. That's less a gender equality issue than a human rights issue.
Some of us women don't want to be treated as what you consider 'equals'. Some of us used to enjoy letting men open doors for us, and allowing us to walk through first. Some of us enjoyed not having to work to make ends meet, and raising our children ourselves in our own homes. Some of us really did enjoy being real women, and letting the men be real men. Now, they're afraid to be men, and don't even know how to treat a lady (if there are any, anymore). Women's Lib. did me no favours. And don't tell me about abuse, been there/done that/got the T-shirt, and STILL want to be a real woman. Now I don't have a choice. I work for money, AND work in the home on the side. I liked it when it was the other way around. Thanks to the Lib., I have no choice. It's not the life I dreamed of as a kid, not what I wanted to do or be. I have no choice.
speculation only phil........
Thank you Kookie, I respect your opinion and in many ways I agree with you. I'm not an American but I think that both our countries could benefit from offering more support (financially and socially) to families who want one of the parents to be a full time carer. . I had realised that the abuse issue was probably something that had been brought up with you in the past and was trying to explain that that was not a point I would make. I had not thought you were playing the victim as you put it and hope you did not think so.
Money, or should I say LACK OF! A one income home in average America is not as common as it once was. I had no choice but to work. You would have to study the whole history of Women's Lib, and its effects on American society, to understand my statement I guess. I get attacked quite often for wanting the traditional role of a woman - by women - like I'm an idiot to want 'just' that. I need 'enlightenment'. Work at home is valuable, but it is devalued all the time, and called 'old fashioned'. I should want a career they say. But I say, there is no better 'career' than to raise children and care for the household. And I firmly believe a lot of the social issues of our day are caused by women NOT being in the home. --- The abuse thing is one of the lines I hear from libers all the time, us poor abused women needed to stand up for our rights... To a degree that is true, but not to the degree that it is taken. I do not play the 'victim'. ---I am old fashioned, and not sorry for it. But you are right, if women want this coveted 'equality', then they should die in war, just like the men. I'm for 'equal in value, different roles'. That means it's the man's role to fight the wars. My statement was not an attack on you, Charlie, sorry if you took it that way. I was just trying to explain why I agree with McCain.
I have nothing but respect for a parent who stays at home to look after their kids actually, be that a man or a woman. My Mum did it, parents are still doing it. What stopped you? It certainly wasn't "the Lib." And abuse wasn't even on my mind. That's less a gender equality issue than a human rights issue.
Mothers would probably be exempted. There were a lot of exemptions for the Vietnam draft, including medical, marriage, student deferments, etc...
Some of us women don't want to be treated as what you consider 'equals'. Some of us used to enjoy letting men open doors for us, and allowing us to walk through first. Some of us enjoyed not having to work to make ends meet, and raising our children ourselves in our own homes. Some of us really did enjoy being real women, and letting the men be real men. Now, they're afraid to be men, and don't even know how to treat a lady (if there are any, anymore). Women's Lib. did me no favours. And don't tell me about abuse, been there/done that/got the T-shirt, and STILL want to be a real woman. Now I don't have a choice. I work for money, AND work in the home on the side. I liked it when it was the other way around. Thanks to the Lib., I have no choice. It's not the life I dreamed of as a kid, not what I wanted to do or be. I have no choice.
Me too, it was a p*ss-poor idea.
i agree 100%...the question was hypothetical
Neither. The draft is wrong.
If we women want to be treated as equals it would be hypocritical to pick and choose which areas of life we want to be equal in. It's all or nothing.
Obama and I actually agree on this (of course I believe its the only thing we agree on). America doesn't need to be drafting mothers.