There are no solid numbers on Iraqi refugees and fatalities, because, unlike Vietnam, such data is just not recorded. But the estimate in the Brookings article states about 1.2 million refugees, (other sources indicate a higher number) including most of the christians, and a large amount of the Sunnis in Baghdad and western Iraq, the Shi'ite controlled areas. 1.2 million is approximately seven percent of the population of Iraq. And that is just the refugees that have been left homeless. Not including those who fled to the homes of relatives. And the exodus is continuing. Harry Shearer also talked about it on his podcast. I can't remember which date that one was, but you can find it on www.kcrw.com Click on Podcasts, then click on Le Show.In short, I didnt find it in a blog somewhere, I found out about it from a lot of different sources and investigated it for myself. I do not just take predigested facts for granted. I do not just read out predigested talking points. I check it out for myself.
Television reports about the plight of Iraqi christians, who have been chased out of their homes on pain of death, can't provide a link to THOSE reports but here is something from Newsmax: http://www.newsmax.com/ti mmerman/iraqi_christians/ 2007/10/24/43489.htmland something on Sunni refugees:http://www.brookings.edu/articles/2006/11iraq_pollack.aspxhttp://www.brookings.edu/articles/2006/11iraq_pollack.aspx
There are other reasons for Iraq being less violent now... The violence was in part to an effort in ethnic clensing. Sunni and Shia and Christian and Marsh Arab and Kurd all trying to kick each other out of their areas. There were half a million Christians in Baghdad before the war. Now there are almost none. It could be that the ethnic clensing phase is complete. You cant kill a group or chase them out of your area if there are none left.
tell me phil....just what the hell does any of that have to do with the FACT the surge worked? NOTHING...you are changing the subject...
There are no solid numbers on Iraqi refugees and fatalities, because, unlike Vietnam, such data is just not recorded. But the estimate in the Brookings article states about 1.2 million refugees, (other sources indicate a higher number) including most of the christians, and a large amount of the Sunnis in Baghdad and western Iraq, the Shi'ite controlled areas. 1.2 million is approximately seven percent of the population of Iraq. And that is just the refugees that have been left homeless. Not including those who fled to the homes of relatives. And the exodus is continuing. Harry Shearer also talked about it on his podcast. I can't remember which date that one was, but you can find it on www.kcrw.com Click on Podcasts, then click on Le Show.In short, I didnt find it in a blog somewhere, I found out about it from a lot of different sources and investigated it for myself. I do not just take predigested facts for granted. I do not just read out predigested talking points. I check it out for myself.
Television reports about the plight of Iraqi christians, who have been chased out of their homes on pain of death, can't provide a link to THOSE reports but here is something from Newsmax: http://www.newsmax.com/ti mmerman/iraqi_christians/ 2007/10/24/43489.htmland something on Sunni refugees:http://www.brookings.edu/articles/2006/11iraq_pollack.aspxhttp://www.brookings.edu/articles/2006/11iraq_pollack.aspx
what frikkin blog did you read that on? lol...care to provide a link?
There are other reasons for Iraq being less violent now... The violence was in part to an effort in ethnic clensing. Sunni and Shia and Christian and Marsh Arab and Kurd all trying to kick each other out of their areas. There were half a million Christians in Baghdad before the war. Now there are almost none. It could be that the ethnic clensing phase is complete. You cant kill a group or chase them out of your area if there are none left.