That sounds like better information than I've read on the subject, and if it's true (and I'm inclined to believe that your sources are good), it's pretty unfortunate to anyone who was misled into bad policies and actions. However, it doesn't change the fact that McCain has been in the same boat as the democrats that were listed. And while these facts are pertinent to decisions made many years ago, policies that have been waved around this year are immune to these mitigating factors.
What a disingenuous argument. We were rushed into that war, against the wishes of mostly everyone. Misleading evidence was given to Congress. Philgtaylor is right; the people you list in your poll were lied to and manipulated.-By whom, you ask? Glad you asked. We could start with some of the discrepancies between the classified and unclassified versions of the 2002 National Intelligence Estimate regarding Iraq (called the White Paper.) This NIE was presented to Congress one week before the authorization to go to war, and facts within it were deleted, altered, whatever it might take to make it seem as though Saddam was an immediate threat. Both CIA Director George Tenet and Condoleezza Rice (who was National Security Director then) had a hand in this.-According to Vincent Bugliosi's latest book, "The phrase 'we have little specific information' regarding Iraqi chemical weapons was changed to 'Saddam probably has'; conjecture was played off as fact when the phrase 'we judge' was dropped from 'Iraq has continued its weapons of mass destruction programs'; and to one line about the use of deadly weapons the White Paper added the words 'including potentially against the US homeland.' Dissenting opinions about the Iraqi threat were discarded for the White Paper, including a State Department Intelligence Research Bureau finding that Iraq was not seeking to acquire nuclear weapons — changed for Congress and the public to read that 'all intelligence experts agree that Iraq is seeking nuclear weapons.'" -I could go on; there's plenty of evidence.
That sounds unnecessarily confident. For the record, I wouldn't mind if Obama were to become president. He seems like a sensible and intelligent man and I think that he could do great things with the presidency -- I have nothing to get over. I am just annoyed with Pelosi's posturing here.
Yep they were wrong. They were lied to and manipulated into doing something very very wrong. We get it. Many of us tried to warn them. Millions took to the street in protest, all over this planet. Obama did the right thing, when everybody else in power (including the leaders of Britain,Spain, and Australia, and they are no longer in office) did the wrong thing. But what is he to do? So many others were comprommised.
That sounds like better information than I've read on the subject, and if it's true (and I'm inclined to believe that your sources are good), it's pretty unfortunate to anyone who was misled into bad policies and actions. However, it doesn't change the fact that McCain has been in the same boat as the democrats that were listed. And while these facts are pertinent to decisions made many years ago, policies that have been waved around this year are immune to these mitigating factors.
What a disingenuous argument. We were rushed into that war, against the wishes of mostly everyone. Misleading evidence was given to Congress. Philgtaylor is right; the people you list in your poll were lied to and manipulated.-By whom, you ask? Glad you asked. We could start with some of the discrepancies between the classified and unclassified versions of the 2002 National Intelligence Estimate regarding Iraq (called the White Paper.) This NIE was presented to Congress one week before the authorization to go to war, and facts within it were deleted, altered, whatever it might take to make it seem as though Saddam was an immediate threat. Both CIA Director George Tenet and Condoleezza Rice (who was National Security Director then) had a hand in this.-According to Vincent Bugliosi's latest book, "The phrase 'we have little specific information' regarding Iraqi chemical weapons was changed to 'Saddam probably has'; conjecture was played off as fact when the phrase 'we judge' was dropped from 'Iraq has continued its weapons of mass destruction programs'; and to one line about the use of deadly weapons the White Paper added the words 'including potentially against the US homeland.' Dissenting opinions about the Iraqi threat were discarded for the White Paper, including a State Department Intelligence Research Bureau finding that Iraq was not seeking to acquire nuclear weapons — changed for Congress and the public to read that 'all intelligence experts agree that Iraq is seeking nuclear weapons.'" -I could go on; there's plenty of evidence.
That sounds unnecessarily confident. For the record, I wouldn't mind if Obama were to become president. He seems like a sensible and intelligent man and I think that he could do great things with the presidency -- I have nothing to get over. I am just annoyed with Pelosi's posturing here.
Yep they were wrong. They were lied to and manipulated into doing something very very wrong. We get it. Many of us tried to warn them. Millions took to the street in protest, all over this planet. Obama did the right thing, when everybody else in power (including the leaders of Britain,Spain, and Australia, and they are no longer in office) did the wrong thing. But what is he to do? So many others were comprommised.
Obama 2008 get over it, it's going to happen.....