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The bible speaks of future events spading thousands of years. What is amazing,Six thousand years ago the bible did not speak of extraterrestrials, or the end of man or women prematurely.
Thanks for writing this! It's always nice to find out about other people who are unplugged. Thank the little baby jesus (hah j/k).
Not ancient roman scrolls. There are copies of scrolls that mention him, but they are copies of copies of copies, all hand written, and a diligent christian scribe could have simply written Jesus into it, because he thought it SHOULD be there.
Ah, that was his clever plan, then, to relegate, according to Christian doctrine, the majority of the world's population -- past, present, and presumably future -- to eternal torment in Hell. He would have been talked about even more if he had made his message crystal clear so that everyone could reasonably make the choice to accept that message, instead of just expecting people to "believe."
The human Jesus may have been a "day labourer," but the divine Jesus, if he had existed, could certainly have managed to write. And even if he couldn't, he could have dictated his thought to someone.
No, he wasn't "found on record in a bunch of old roman scrolls or something." Only one ancient writer, the Jewish historian Josephus, mentions Jesus by name, and the two short passages where he does this are generally considered to be insertions by some later writer, probably Eusebius in the 4th Century. No Roman writer mentions Jesus at all.
Regardless of whether Jesus actually existed or not, even the way he is portrayed in the Bible makes it clear that he did not intend his message, or at least not all of it, to be for everybody. For instance, after he tells the Parable of the Sower to a crowd, a parable which he does not explain to his listeners, he pulls his apostles aside and says, effectively, "Okay, now let me tell you, and only you, what this story means." When he speaks in riddles and parables, without explaining their meaning, he clearly "did not seek clarity.
My opinion is that the things he said were directed at the people around him and weren't intended to be written in a book and distributed. He only wrote in sand.
Myths don't write themselves..
oh poopoo on that!
Biblical Jesus almostly certainly did not exist, and therefore "He" did not write Bible is nonsense Religion is mental disease Opportunists use religion to manipulate weak minds, as religious propositions constitute a back door to the rational mind, circumventing the filters of reason Have a nice day, -a non-deluded American
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according to the bible he could read
yeah, there really should be a "because he didn't exist" option. Oh, but he did exist! Why? Turns out, Jesus was a popular name back then, and there were many Jesii who were also prophets. So, which Jesus was it? I don't care.
Jesus most likely existed and had wisdom. However, he was not omniscient. Thus, he could not foresee the evolution of his teachings and how arguments might ensue over subtle nuances of his teachings. Interestingly, we might ask if any of the religious prophets ever wrote down their own teachings with their own hands?
He was schizophrenic.
or something? Well with rock solid evidence like that how could I doubt you?
The Bible is the most dangerous book ever.
Very insightful comment. There seems to be little doubt that the historical Jesus existed. Whether he was or was intended to be the voice of the divine requires belief in such things, which is the purview of religion and faith, not science. Faith is teeming with mysteries, if you believe those sorts of things. That is what makes it attractive and repellant at the same time.
sorry to break it to you but, even if none of the afterlife stories turn out to be true, jesus was a real person.. he was found on record in a bunch of old roman scrolls or something
Back then only the high priests and church officials could write, all other messages and great tales were spread by mouth. the bible is a nonexact translation of what jesus wanted us to know, which is why we need to read it and inturpret it ourselves... i know a guy who takes it way too literally, get a clue dude, no translation is word for word, it's basically a bunch of parables teaching us to be loving of everyone
Because Jesus wan't a real person, and the Bible is a book of fairy tales/myth.
Religion is nonsense
Obviously, his plan worked, because you're still talking about him today. I'd say that it worked out just as planned.For those of you who don't believe in him and constantly try to belittle his impact, he still loves you! Don't worry~You'll still have another chance to devote your life to God, even after you're left behind during the Rapture, but it's going to be a lot tougher on you at that time. Hopefully, you'll get on board before that happens and realize how much better your life can be when you have him in it, because I would like to see you all in Heaven.By the way, Gigi, you don't have to be a "religious" person to believe in Jesus Christ or read the Bible. You don't even have to attend church, although, it will make you feel better to be around people that will support you in your beliefs. You can simply make a committment in your own home. Try reading the Bible sometime. I know the King James version can be a little confusing at times, but there are other paraphrased versions that will make it easier to understand. Plus, that is what church is designed to do--make us understand the Bible. Try reading it sometime. I think you will find it quite interesting, if you give it a try.
Jesus was a poor Jewish peasant, Mark 6 describes him as a "tekton" or a day labourer. Writing was a luxury for the privelleged classes. Plain and simply, Jesus could not write.
I don't like religion.
he wanted us to "pickover" the bones of his writings....
If Jesus was god why didn't he throw us all a bone and not split like that. Now we have all these people guessing and making up shit and pushing that shit on everyone else. oh i forgot it's a game, god needed just wanted to have some fun, with us, like owning a pinball machine..
If he wanted clarity why would he tell people: Eat me?
Maybe he did. Even if he did write it down, who is to say it wouldn't become distorted?
In response to the comment above requesting "none of the above" I have an idle question. You seem to be suggesting that Jesus was a product of his time, passing his teaching orally. This may be the case, but this would seem to be a decision of Jesu bin Josef the man, rather than Jesus the Christ. If the decision were made by divinity, one would assume that his methods would be equipped to address peoples of other places and cultures beyond Judea (or Greece or Rome), and probably even future peoples, like ourselves--unless there is some intent behind the methods which so clearly fosters a variety of conflicting interpretations. If, however, the decision to pass his teachings orally was made without divine insight, the rationale could be anything, but it does beg the question why his teachings were divine but his methods were not. Assuming of course he existed at all, and if so, he was intended to be the voice of the Divine. Two assumptions I do not share personally.
What Jesus?
good question
The problem inherent in multiple choice questions is that the choices are limited to what the pollster provides. For instance, it is more apparent to me that Jesus did not write down his message because in those days, the predominant form of communication was oral. Most of the people Jesus was speaking to more than likely could not read and the materials for writing were not readily available and were undoubtedly costly. Jesus was not self-funded, he was a carpenter. At the very least the pollster should provide a choice for "Other" or "None of the Above."
Religion requires mystery. Thus, clarity is not required for a religion to affect humanity and to spread.
If Jesus had written down his ideas with great precision, would their have been so many different Christian sects and also wars between Catholics and Protestants? Would there have been an Inquisition?
If one reason Jesus had come was to reveal the will of God, why did Jesus seemingly fail to commit his revelations to writing during his lifetime, and with his own hand. Instead, it appears that he left this important task to "anonymous writers" (and later redactors) who may have made a sufficient number of mistakes and written a sufficient number of contradictory facts and ideas in their accounts to divide Christians for centuries to come.Couldn't have Jesus written down his message in a clear manner? If he did, why don't the gospels tell us of his writings?