May 11th, 2008 | Yahoo survey

Gamers: is DirectX 10 a good enough reason for you to upgrade from Windows XP to Vista?


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Gamers: is DirectX 10 a good enough reason for you to upgrade from Windows XP to Vista?


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posted May 17th, 2008 at 11:13 CDT

I also plan to stick on Windows XP. Many of the programs that I use are not compatable with Vista nor will they work on a 64bit system. 64bit may be something to look into in a year or 2, but right now it is not worth it. As for Vista, there is just too much bells and whistles to it that cause the system to use most of the resources available to it, thus causing games to suffer from it. Also the loss of DOS commands is one thing I don't like. In my opinion, Vista is more for those that just browse the Internet and use all those docklets just to save them the 30 seconds it takes to walk across the room and check the thermometer outside. I would love to go back to Win98 just because that system didn't use barely anything for resources and it could run programs faster. Untill they make a system that works with 3DS Max and Photoshop that actually doesn't make them run slower, then I may think about upgrading. Also maybe up the 32 bit systems to allow up to atleast 6GB of RAM because technology now, 6GB is like 256 MB from 4-5 years ago.

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posted May 14th, 2008 at 14:43 CDT

Same here.  Vista 64 is great.  I have 4 gigs of ram, a pair of 8800GTS 512s in SLI and a 45nm, 3ghz quad core cpu - QX9650.  Vista 64 blazes...   Starts fast, shuts down in seconds (my old XP machine would not shut down automatically).  CPU cores are rarely over 25% capacity and ram usage sits around 30% (ram has never gone over 70% except in Prime95 stress tests).  The bottom line is Vista 64 blazes, is error free, the GUI looks great and games play well.  Oh yeah, I built my machine to dual boot Vista 64 and XP.  I haven't booted XP in over two months now because its a dinosaur to deal with after the beauty of Vista.  Finally, the poll is flawed because even the positive Vista choice starts out, "Unfortunately".

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posted May 14th, 2008 at 13:20 CDT

I'm a sysadmin too on 250+ corporate networks, outsourced remote. Vista is awful, awful, awful. When it takes 2 hours out of the box just to shut off all the "features" that make it largely unusable in an office (UAC, phishing filter, reverting to IE6 or Firefox, downgrading Aero), it's just not worth it. We'll buy a roomful of XP machines before they stop selling them and pray for an early coming of Windows 7...and as a gamer, the hell with Vista as well. When having notepad open in aero takes up 25% of your system resources, that's just poor design.

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posted May 14th, 2008 at 12:57 CDT

ok ok, here is my deal. XP it tok years of tweaking upgrading and basicly fussing with until it was practically perfect!!! it ran programs well, handled games even better it was pretty much a miracle next to win95, 2000 and 98. Now here comes Vista, lots of bells whistles and steam!!! To this day it still fails to do alot of what it was supposed to ! unless you shell out extra money for the ultimate  version of it. Lets use this as an example. I played Grand theft outo : San andreas on my laptop running XP and DX9 with absoluty no problems whatsoever. played it loved it ! Now here i am a years later and i want to play that game on my laptop running Vista. NO WAY !!!! i have done every software upgrade imaginable short of having to buy new hardware. then come to find out oops! i gotta buy a completly different version of the game because the drivers won't work on vista. i go and spend $12 on the new game and it still crashes on me !!! WHAT GIVES !!!?? thats whay i am totally on with XP !!

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posted May 14th, 2008 at 12:00 CDT

ok now for me vista works from everything I read about windows V new features they just dont intice me I dont need a system telling me what to do and while I may have to use it in my job . my personal computer will be xp as for the dx 10 thats not a factor I play games like civilization 4 and my most demanding game is the new command and conquer game. I dont think vista will be loved but I do think it will be used because Microsoft can squezze builders like me who dont care for linux and apple doesnt work well on PC's. also vista is so resource hungry compared to my first system its sad I wish they would make something with an appetite more like 98 se

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posted May 14th, 2008 at 11:52 CDT

It's not the performance of DX10 that's the problem... it's the problem of the core Vista OS itself that sucks the life out of a gaming box.  I mean, c'mon man.. you're better off running Server 2008 in workstation mode, performance wise.  Vista's a bloated corpse of an OS, and about as nimble.

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posted May 14th, 2008 at 02:11 CDT

I wish this article addressed that there really isn't any real benefit to those "DX10" games. They're artificial. For example, the video linked showed the differences between Call of Juarez running in DX9 and in DX10. The only major differences is that they decided to use a nicer texture for the cliffs. That was purely out of preference, and holds no technical value whatorever. The best example of artificially ramping up DX10's importance was by mentioning Crysis. The game only "look[s] better in Vista because of DirectX 10" because they limited the "Very High" option to Vista only. The truth is that the graphical quality of Very High isn't bound to any real features of DirectX 10, and can be turned on in DX9/XP with just playing around with some configuration files.So saying that "games like Crysis benefit clearly from the DX 10 upgrade" is somewhat misinforming, simply because there's a bigger underlying issue at hand.But we'll leave that for another day... 

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posted May 13th, 2008 at 09:18 CDT

Vista 64x rocks.. flat out.Im running an 8 gig of ram Vista gaming system with SLI 8800GTS 512s on a E8400 Wolfdale and its flat out the best gaming system I have ever had.legacy apps work great and there is literally no reason to stay with XP. 

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posted May 13th, 2008 at 02:16 CDT

Yhea Crysis may look better with vista becose of the directx 10 . but 1 crysis would have been a Good game IF they left out the frikking aliens the moment they jumpt out of that ship i uninstalled the game never played it again.2 vista has to many bugs, many gamer me included run several programs at one's for example i run msn,teamspeak,and the game i want  vista is not very forgiving as it comes to mutlti tasking becose 1 vista itself is so self absorbt that it need a insane amount of resorces to run. so if u try doing several things at one's it locks u up and u cant do d*ck nomore. so my advise for gaming. stick with XP until microsoft takes the need to spy on us out of vista and thinks more about the consumer then it own wallet.

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posted May 13th, 2008 at 01:47 CDT

I'm a systems Administrator as well, Vista had its issues just like WinXP driver related but its all sorted now. Vista runs silky smooth on my system. Some people just don't know what there missing & can't configure there systems to run this gorgeous O/S

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posted May 12th, 2008 at 18:29 CDT

Not! I will go Linux before Vista. It isn't better and other than a slight enhancment with dx10, it offers nothing a real gamer needs. Plus the fact most of the dx10 enhancment in Crysis can be run in dx9 with a config tweak. MS can shove Vista...

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posted May 12th, 2008 at 18:21 CDT

I just bought a new computer and even though it cost me more to chose XP Pro rather than Vista I stuck with XP because it performes faster for gaming.  Vista is a dead end.  Corporations are not making the switch either.   I'm sticking with XP until Win 7 has been out a while...as will most other serious gamers. 

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posted May 12th, 2008 at 15:20 CDT

That is absolutely flawed... Vista works much better and has more to offer.  The Poll is flawed, who wouldnt want to not spend money paying for a new OS unless they absolutely had to.  If the cost was cheaper, people would be installing Vista in droves.

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posted May 12th, 2008 at 12:42 CDT

Vista is to Windows XP as Windows ME was to Windows 98.  It's sad...

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posted May 12th, 2008 at 11:59 CDT

Name one game that looks significantly better in DX10.  And before you say Crysis, check this out: http://www.technospot.net /blogs/how-to-configure-v ery-high-settings-crysis- dx9-windows-xp/

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posted May 12th, 2008 at 11:56 CDT

@Dynomoose just bought new xp disks for same reason.

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posted May 12th, 2008 at 11:25 CDT

The simple fact of the matter is that hardware manufacturers dragged their feet when developing drivers for vista. Here we are nearly two years later and many manufacturers HAVE YET to produce stable Vista drivers. I tried to run vista, I really did, but the sheer amount of headaches I had to endure because of bad drivers, incompatible software and so forth forced me to switch back. Don't even get my started on my dashed hopes for x64-bit computing.... :(

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posted May 12th, 2008 at 09:53 CDT

I have Vista, works great. DX10 is AWSOME!!!!! Seriously awsome!

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posted May 12th, 2008 at 09:25 CDT

64bit is the only logical 'next step', not a new OS. So a 32 bit version of Vista is like putting a steam engine into a hotrod. BTW Windows 7 soon to be released? Lets pretend like Vista never happened and I will be buying a 64 bit system with windows 7 right soon.

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posted May 12th, 2008 at 07:11 CDT

I agree with the 'bias' guy. It's a bloaed operating system which hogs system resources. Why would gamers who spend xxxxx dollars on making sure their computers are the fastest possible pieces of well oiled machinery why would you compromise an awesome system with a shoddy operating system?

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